amzn_assoc_design = "enhanced_links"; Hi I’m glad I came across this website as this has a lot of info in converting MTB to ebikes. You should be able to alter the number of assist levels in the advanced settings menu – if you can find the model of display you are using, I can send you a link to the correct user manual. Hi Tony, thanks for sharing your knowledge, it is really useful. Hi Tony just an update, I fitted the Yose rear freewheel 26inch hub yesterday all was pretty straightforward, I had to drill the frame for the battery mount as the bottle holder holes didn’t line up which was easy enough and the width of the motor is a little larger than the 138mm advertised I would say it is more like 140/142 but managed to get just enough play on the forks for it to fit in. Performance - The best bang for your buck! Regards Nigel. E-bike central motor drive system (31 pages) Summary of Contents for BAFANG BBS02. Also, is the 500 watt version more reliable than the 750 watt? Regarding the wiring, I usually route it on the underside of the diagonal downtube (along side the existing gear cable). This could be bypassed by purchasing a different display. Can you please give me your opinion on the best ebike kit for my Cube Attention SL (2017)? Hello and welcome to my review of the popular Bafang BBS02 mid-drive electric bike conversion kit. The serial number on the motor should have BBS02B on it. Because this motor is so powerful, I would recommend the hydraulic brake cut off sensors or completely new hydraulic brakes with the sensors already built in. It is possible that this may happen due to tighter restrictions. Also has haptics so it vibrates to let you know that the power output has adjusted when you press the buttons. Overview, test ride, and programming of the Bafang BBS02 48V 750W Mid Drive Ebike Motor. The only other thing I would need is tools to remove the old crank arms and bottom bracket. The best guide on how to program the Bafang is available at the electricbike-blog.com. Re the battery, I took a gamble on Amazon with an unbranded one with no reviews and at a high cost but it has done me proud and is fine about 4 + years on. Im thinking after taking of the charger I put the battery on with the on switch on and that may have done it. Unfortunately, none of the Bafang displays are easily removable. If you need any further advice, please let me know. Here is the link to the supplier I use (including battery options). Only difference I could spot was that bbs02b is heavier by 300 grams. GS170701242. If you require the full 9 levels go for the P850c display. Your email address will not be published. This is the newest Bafang 750w BBS02 mid drive motor kit, including version B motor and upgraded 25 amp controller with 9 IRFB3077 MOSFETs. A hub motor would be a good enough option for a fat bike, but if you’re used to a BBS02, I would stick with that. No specialty tools are necessary! This electric motor produces considerably more torque than its smaller siblings (up to 120N.m), I have listed the peak power output for all the motor and battery configurations below: I have listed the power output to include the 52v battery option, as this is quite popular, although I no longer advocate the use of a 52v battery with the BBS02, due to reliability issues (please see below).amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; Once your order ships, you will be emailed a FedEx tracking number, so you can track the delivery shipment of your order. Don’t miss it, even when it’s pouring with rain. Another way the motor could be restricted would be at the controller (inside the motor) this could be lifted by purchasing a USB programming lead and downloading the free software. When I zoomed in on the 360 degree image, I couldn’t see an external cup bearing which would indicate it uses a pressfit bottom bracket. Christian. As far as gearing is concerned, I would try PreciAlps – they are a French company that specialise in 104 BCD adaptors, and CNC narrow-wide chainrings for the Bafang motor. Is this like a Back Pedal Brake ? This is the newest Bafang 750w BBS02 mid drive motor kit, including version B motor and upgraded 25 amp controller with 9 IRFB3077 MOSFETs. The 46t or 48t front chainring will put good speed on the bike 30mph plus. UPDATE: So far this year (2019) I haven’t had any reported issues with the BBS02B 750w. You’re going to be a bit limited on what you can fit as your bike has a PF30 pressfit bottom bracket and thru-axles on the rear. The only way I can see a Bafang motor being speed-restricted would be to set the limit (at the display) from the factory with a different pass code for the advanced settings feature. Thank you for your positive comments, much appreciated. Hello Tony Thanks for coming back to me, having viewed the video helped convince me it’s the way to go. Very much appreciated , I just ordered an aluminium frame to replace my carbon frame as I have lost a little faith in carbon as a material after my fork broke… I ordered the Octane One Prone 29″ Frame 2019 size L. I`m starting on a project to build a commuter bike and light trail bike, so think the Octane should be perfect…. Do you know if all bbs02b – 350, 500, 750 units are the same just with different controllers or are motors and gears etc different too? Looking at the photo’s on their website it’s hard to tell – I zoomed in and couldn’t see a gearshift sensor plug (which is on the very latest model). I am having the hardest time finding a reputable rear wheel 48 volt e-bike kit. I’d like to convert the HT to a winter off road and use for commuting. The Whyte 603 should be a nice and straightforward bike to convert. Hi Tony, I have recently purchased a Polygon Entiat TR6 on which I would like to install a Bafang BBS02B 750W Mid Drive using a 48v 13s4p battery with Sansung 35E cells. No worries Roy, if you need any further advice, let me know. . These kits will only work on bikes with 68mm & 73mm bottom brackets, which is most bikes with the exception of fat bikes and beach cruisers. Thanks in advance and keep up the great work. Thanks again for the info and help. My battery 35amp fuse blows. Do all the BBs02b come with the wire for the gear sensor? I am looking to install a motor in my felt f2 bike, do you know if it would fit? Thanks Paul. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. You would need to carry either a 2mm or 2.5mm Allen key to remove the display from the handlebar and unplug the connector. All the BBS02B’s I’ve had from Bestebike have the plug coming off the motor for the gearshift sensor. Also planning to install BBSHD on my old Gary Fisher Sugar 2(I think its 2001 or 2002) and I think its a 73 BB also. Bear in mind that I don’t care about speed or using the throttle at all. I was going to buy 48V 750W 14aH unit. If this is the case, then you would need to contact the supplier for a replacement under warranty. The mounting can be a particular issue on the BBS motors, as you are relying on the mounting plate and lock-nut to keep the motor from moving in the bottom bracket shell. These are listed for the BBSHD, but they should also for the BBS02. If you could please help me with a build I am considering I would be most great full. I have a 2017 Voodoo Bizango with a 10 speed 11-36T and cranks 22/36T. Also you need to watch the threads on the crankarms / crankset when you remove them as they tend to be made of Swiss cheese (plus they don’t always grease the BB axles) – when you’ve removed the Allen bolts and screwed in the crank puller, make sure it’s tightened fully in the thread (usually with a 17mm spanner) before you try to remove them. Luna Cycle have some pretty good 48v battery packs available and they might be able to custom-build one to fit in the frame. Having said that, I used a 52v Bafang BBS02 for a year and covered nearly 2000 miles, and I never had any issues – I later sold the bike, and it is still running well to this day! I’m fairly sure even the later models have BSA threaded bottom brackets. Train in Manchester are the worst, so many delays and cancellations. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. I think you can make changes to speed limit, start level, etc right from the display…do I need the USB programming cord? I used your links and got everything. If you wanted to buy a battery separately Batteryempireuk on eBay are a good supplier – I have purchased quite a few batteries from them in the past and they have all proven to be reliable over the long term. If you need to use the throttle regularly, it would be worth changing the throttle ‘start current’ settings in the controller firmware (you will need a compatible USB lead and software). I’ve always felt the TSDZ2 has slightly less pedalling resistance (with the motor switched off) than the Bafang, but apparently it can vary from motor to motor. Most of the time (about 80%) would be used on a road. Our Price: $799.00 . Luna Cycles in the US sell these displays with the full 9 levels available. You can expect an assisted range of between 25-40 miles from the 12.5Ah battery (possibly more if you’re only using the assist on hills). So with the Bafang fitted it would still be relatively light. Another thing you will need (if you don’t already have one) is a 1/2″ breaker bar – this will give you enough leverage to remove the bottom bracket, as they can be a right sod to remove at times. If you need any more advice, please let me know. Regarding the DP-C18 display, it is unfortunate that a lot of these displays are shipped from suppliers limited (at the firmware) to 5 levels of assist, and there is no way of increasing this to 9, unless you can actually hack the firmware in the display – reprogramming the controller won’t make any difference. With a 73mm BB there should be ample thread left on the motor shaft to fully tighten the inner lockring, but sometimes there is not enough thread left to fully tighten the outer lockring. I hope this helps. Make sure none of the connector pins between the wiring loom and motor are bent. Heat dissipation is not as good on the BBS02 as it is with the BBSHD and even the latest ‘B’ version of the controller (with the upgraded INRFB3077 MOSFETs) can be prone to premature failure when using a throttle inappropriately. More recently (in the last year or so) I haven’t had any issues reported so far – this has been since I started only fitting 48v batteries and limiting the maximum current to 18A. I have a GT Grade carbon drop handle gravel bike Do you think the bike is suitable for a conversion and if so what would you recommend I mainly ride country lanes in Herts & Bucks. Can I seek your advice a little more. If you can get the motor to fit, you may find the gear indexing not as good, as the Bafang motor has a slight off-set. 0 of 0 people found the following review helpful. If you want to monitor your pedalling speed you can buy a fairly cheap bike computer with cadence sensor for around 100 Euro. Thanks Tony, Much appreciated. Hello I currently own a volt pulse x but would like to upgrade the fun level, and am considering fitting this unit to my giant roam, with 28 inch wheels. AliExpress.com Product – Bafang Motor BBSHD 1000w BBS02B 750w BBS01B 250w BBS01 BBS02 Mid Drive Motor Electric Motor Bicycle Conversion Kit. Even if you could fit a spacer between the motor and BB shell, you’re not going to have a lot of thread left on the motor shaft to fit the outer lockring. I have experienced a couple of issues, where the part has never been returned or has somehow got ‘mysteriously been lost’ in the post. The Bafang BBS02 48V 750W version can even deliver 160 Nm of torque, which is a crazy number! A chain tool to remove your bike's chain. I was choosing between buying the Bafang BBS02 750w and the BBSHD 1000w. Also, you can always use the throttle in order to engage the motor if you want to take a break from pedaling! 44 tooth is the smallest option that will provide you with the most torque and it is the best option for hill-climbing ability. Being a large bike with a rear rack this seems to be the best placement for the battery. The installation criteria is the same as the other Bafang units for the classic 68mm-73mm bottom bracket fitment, this motor is also available with a bottom bracket shaft extension to allow fitment to Fat bike bottom bracket sizes of 100mm and 120mm. I reckon I very rarely ride it at more than 250 – 350 watts. They have good customer service as well. Out of all the configurations I’ve fitted the BBS02 5002 36v does seem to be the most reliable. Thank you for any advice. 4. Regards GK. For simplicity and reliability, I would be inclined to go for a 48v Bafang rear hub motor – these are generally very reliable and can be used with a 52v battery. If you decided to go for the kit, you could mount the battery on your wife’s bike on the rear rack (if you couldn’t fit it into the frame). What are EU people doing? Apart from the filing, the installations were straightforward. The main issue I have come across with carbon framed bikes in the past, is the area frame area around the bottom bracket. You may have problems with a carbon frame, depending on the thickness around the bottom bracket area. Also, you can always use the throttle in order to engage the motor if you want to take a break from pedaling! I would like to buy a new bike and want to know if a BSS02 48V 750W kit will fit on this one:https://www.stevensbikes.de/2020/index.php?bik_id=47&cou=EN&lang=en_EN. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. Personally, I am not a big fan of these throttles. The only way to change this is get a programming lead and follow the instructions for changing the settings using the free Bafang configuration software. Guess I need to watch a video on the installation process. amzn_assoc_default_search_phrase = "bafang bbs02"; If you can send a couple photos of the bottom bracket area (left, right and underside) to my email address: cycletek@outlook.com I will be able to have a better look. The motor includes pedal assist sensors (PAS), so you can choose the power level of motor assistance that you would like while pedaling. I find altering the controller settings using the USB lead and software seems to improve reliability. It comes with 28t sprocket as standard and the chain stays flare out barley any room at all. I hope this helps, and glad you like the article. I have never come across a Bafang BBS motor that has a coaster brake function, only the Tongsheng TSDZ2 motor. The Bafang motors are generally reliable if ridden sensibly. Brilliant! I was intending to upgrade the controller for a FOC based in anyway. Plan to mount the motor on this bike: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/full-suspension-mountain-bikes/fantomds-eagle-sx-comp-full-suspension.htm Also found an eBay seller offering 32-38T chainrings for the 02 for under $25. In NL we have the same brake lever arrangement as in UK with your advice I’m now be able to order my bike tomorrow. Disc Brake (180/160) Rims CUBE ZX20, 32H, Disc Hubs Shimano Deore HB-M615, Centerlock. I have found by reducing peak current to 18A (from 25A), I haven’t had a single failure reported by customers in the last year. What is a good, reliable display for the 500 watt Bafang? Will this fit? Many thanks for any advice Or suggestions. Bafang BBS02 750W 48v Upgraded Controller 3077. Also the maximum current is set to 25A on the 36v 500w, I always drop this a little to 20-22A which gives a bit of a buffer zone. I ended up buying the Bafang BBS02 750w from BafangUSAdirect at bafangusadirect.com after talking to Kevin on the phone. Also do you know if the Shimano M355 Hydraulic Brake cut off set, will fit on the current Tektro break gear? I reckon the best set-up would be a BBS02B 750w and a 48v 17Ah battery. amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "ebikes1-20"; Please feel free to leave your comments below and subscribe for regular updates on new content and partner offers. Is that right? It is also possible there is a fault with the display. May I ask, having read a number of forums re purchasing kits, there is strong theme regarding buying from a British company for potential warrenty issues, you mention using Aliexpress, have you ever had any issues with them or warrenty claims? Thanks for making this website and offering advice on the bbs02b. But for long-term reliability, the HD seems to be more robust (in my experience). And most importantly stick with a 48v battery, I never had any issues with a 52v myself, but I’ve had quite a few controller failures on customer bikes when using 52v. motor: BBS02 mid-drive 48V 750W battery: 52V 13AH display controller: 860C. Below are some links to trusted Bafang BBS02 vendors that ship globally and also links to the motor kit from various Amazon locales. It works well, nice neat install with the controller being in the battery mount, doesn’t feel like there is much assistance on levels 1 and 2 but power really kicks in on levels 3 4 5, and it shoots up hills on level 5 with minimum effort. Everything well built though, it’s totally fine. Hi Tony, I am interested in installing a mid drive motor on my tandem bike. I’m happy that I got my new Stevens bike a few days now. The only tools that you will need for the install are: 1. If they are alright, then the fault could be with the wiring loom itself (I have come across this a couple of time before). Regards GK. Some batteries are not particularly waterproof, this is something you will need to check before making a purchase. I would recommend you have a long breaker bar at hand just in case. 1000w Electric Bike Conversion Kit Review, Best Electric Conversion Kit for Recumbent Trike or Bike. Hi Tony I’ll take a look at them I think I would prefer the hub for easier fitting, thanks for taking the time to provide all the suggestions its been a great help. The Bafang mid-drive BBS02 750w motor mounts in place of your bike's bottom bracket and replaces your bike's crankset and front derailleur if you have one. Can I just buy 42 tooth independently ? The Shimano M355 hydraulic brakes should be a straight swap from the Tektro brakes fitted. Very informative. What’s your advice on the cleanest look with regards to all the wires etc and is the stock software configuration OK to use (commuting mainly and no lary abuse!) It has let me get back on bikes. Is the BBS02 36V 500W motor more reliable? 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